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Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 3686
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Indiana Jonesing
It's time for another Democratic primary round and the turnouts are huge. Will Hillary's conversion to whisky-drinkin' and economic populism keep her the race? Or does it turn from here?
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 3686
Moderator
I'll start ...
Hilarious (but apparently serious) re-positioning of Hillary as the candidate who can drink McCain under the table.
And darn those fancy economists with their high-falutin' theories and all.
This is stupid, but possibly also effective.
Danielle
From: PAS Women's XV Strategic Headquarters
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 379
Our household is now in a blue funk: we await the anointing of President McCain. Sigh.
Gareth Ward
From: Auckland, NZ
Since: Mar 2007
Posts: 202
And darn those fancy economists with their high-falutin' theories and all.
Jon Stewart was hilariously cutting on that point last night...
David Cormack
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 56
Ha. Drudge has exits as 51-37 for Obama in NC and 45-43 in Ind.
Could he finally kill off the witch?
Danielle
From: PAS Women's XV Strategic Headquarters
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 379
And.... sexism. Awesome.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 3686
Moderator
Yeah, HuffPo has spectacular exit polls for Obama too, but he always over-performs in exit polls ..
David Cormack
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 56
No, I don't think she's a witch purely because she's a woman. I think she's a witch because she's an evil person.
Had she been a man I would have said warlock.
Danyl Mclauchlan
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 406
And.... sexism. Awesome.
I don't think its sexism to loath Hilary - at the start of the the primary I was happy for either of them to win the nomination but leaning towards Hilary because I had doubts about Obama's experience. My new-found hatred has nothing to do with her gender and everything to do with the way she's conducted her campaign.
Danielle
From: PAS Women's XV Strategic Headquarters
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 379
Had she been a man I would have said warlock.
I'll take your word for it.
(People so often refer to, say, Karl Rove or Dick Cheney as 'warlocks', don't they? And the word has just the same cultural baggage. Oh wait. No it doesn't.)
I don't like Hillary's campaign much either, Danyl: I'm an Obama supporter. But falling back on 'witch' to describe her is plain old sexism.
George Darroch
From: Canberra
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 70
I don't always agree with their politics, but CounterPunch have a lot of interesting and well thought out perspectives that never make it to CNN or the NY Times. Take this article on his funding.
WH
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 310
Uh. Calling a Democrat who commands the support of about 50% of the Democratic constituency "evil" may not make you a sexist, but it may suggest [figure it out for yourself]. Sorry, harsh but true.
Danyl Mclauchlan
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 406
Uh. Calling a Democrat who commands the support of about 50% of the Democratic constituency "evil" may not make you a sexist, but it may suggest [figure it out for yourself]. Sorry, harsh but true.
Tell me, do you also apply this logic to the current president? By your reasoning his electoral success in 04 makes him a pretty good guy, no?
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 3686
Moderator
Uh. Calling a Democrat who commands the support of about 50% of the Democratic constituency "evil" may not make you a sexist, but it may suggest [figure it out for yourself]. Sorry, harsh but true.
I look to avoid gender-specific epithets, but I'm with Danyl on the nature of the Clinton campaign. I think it crossed the line from risible to disgraceful with the gas-tax holiday.
Coming up with a frankly insane soundbite idea then bashing your fellow Democrat (and actually, the entire Democratic leadership) as an "elitist" because he doesn't buy it is unspeakable.
LegBreak
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 182
It’s the thought of 4 years of Obama’s eloquent yet depressingly vacuous speeches that puts me off.
BTW, if Hilary’s a witch what does that make Bill?
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 3686
Moderator
It’s the thought of 4 years of Obama’s eloquent yet depressingly vacuous speeches that puts me off.
And you're not finding Clinton's no-truck-with-them-fancy-economists schtick way more vacuous?
Danyl Mclauchlan
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 406
BTW, if Hilary’s a witch what does that make Bill?
Her Familiair, surely?
(Check out the section in the article on Prince Rupert's poodle. Weird stuff)
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 3686
Moderator
The networks have called North Carolina for Obama already.
They're holding off on Indiana.
Danielle
From: PAS Women's XV Strategic Headquarters
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 379
I tell you whut </Hank Hill>, I'd much rather listen to either Clinton or Obama's 'vacuous' speeches than the sitting president's. Let's not lose perspective here.
Tim Michie
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 44
Deborah
From: Adelaide
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 425
Could he finally kill off the witch?
FFS, stop the misogyny.
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